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Ism's, Schism's, Sects and Denominations OR One Lord, One Faith?

How does God feel about all the different sects in the faith? Here's an extract from a response of mine to a man going by the handle Riverfinder...

((" no personal interpretations... between me and the word of God")) -TomR

((Tom, that is so blatantly heretical, it's laughable! OF COURSE you have personal interpretations! Let's examine the implications of this statement. Considering HOW MANY words are in the Bible, and HOW MANY different meanings words have, it is VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE for even one other human being to see each word or sentence the exact same way.)) -Riverfinder

Rom 15:5 "Now the God of patience and consolation grant you to be likeminded one toward another according to Christ Jesus: 6 That ye may WITH ONE MIND AND ONE MOUTH GLORIFY GOD, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.

2 Cor 13:11 "Finally, brethren, farewell. Be perfect, be of good comfort, BE OF ONE MIND, live in peace; AND the God of love and peace shall be with you."

Phi 1:27 "Only let your conversation be as it becometh the gospel of Christ: that whether I come and see you, or else be absent, I may hear of your affairs, that ye STAND FAST IN ONE SPIRIT, WITH ONE MIND striving together for the faith of the gospel;"

Phi 2:2 "Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind."

1 Pet 3:8 "Finally, be ye all of one mind..."

1 Co 14:37 "If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord."

Luk 6:46 "And WHY CALL YE ME, LORD, LORD, AND DO NOT THE THINGS WHICH I SAY? 47 Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like: 48 He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock.

1 Cor 1:10 "Now I BESEECH YOU, BRETHREN, BY THE NAME OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, THAT YE ALL SPEAK THE SAME THING, AND THAT THERE BE NO DIVISIONS AMONG YOU; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment. 11 For it hath been declared unto me of you, my brethren, by them which are of the house of Chloe, that there are contentions among you. 12 Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ. 13 Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?"

Mar 3:24 "And IF A KINGDOM BE DIVIDED against itself, THAT KINGDOM CANNOT STAND. 25 And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand."

Mat 19:26 "But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible."

1 Cor 2:7 "But WE SPEAK THE WISDOM OF GOD IN A MYSTERY, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory: 8 WHICH NONE OF THE PRINCES OF THIS WORLD KNEW... 10 But GOD HATH REVEALED THEM UNTO US BY HIS SPIRIT: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. 11 For WHAT MAN KNOWETH the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. 12 Now WE HAVE RECEIVED, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; THAT WE MIGHT KNOW THE THINGS THAT ARE FREELY GIVEN TO US OF GOD. 13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 14 BUT THE NATURAL MAN RECEIVETH NOT THE THINGS OF THE SPIRIT OF GOD: FOR THEY ARE FOOLISHNESS UNTO HIM: NEITHER CAN HE KNOW THEM, BECAUSE THEY ARE SPIRITUALLY DISCERNED. 15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. 16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ."

Jude 1:10 "But THESE SPEAK EVIL OF THOSE THINGS WHICH THEY KNOW NOT: BUT WHAT THEY KNOW NATURALLY, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves."

1 Cor 3:3 "For ye are yet carnal: for WHEREAS THERE IS AMONG YOU... DIVISIONS, ARE YE NOT CARNAL, AND WALK AS MEN?"

2 Pe 2:9 "The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished: 10 But chiefly THEM THAT WALK AFTER THE FLESH in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. PRESUMPTUOUS ARE THEY, SELFWILLED, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities... 12 But these, as natural brute beasts... SPEAK EVIL OF THE THINGS THAT THEY UNDERSTAND NOT; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption; 13 And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness... Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you; 15 Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray... 17 These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever. 18 For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, THEY ALLURE THROUGH THE LUSTS OF THE FLESH, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error. 19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption..."

((In response to your use of 1 Corinthians 11:19 What translation do you get that from? Silly me. King James, right? Well, NRSV reads in as "factions", not heresies. Furthermore, the point is that this is the way it's SUPPOSED to work! This scripture supports denominations more than it condemns them!)) -Riverfinder

(("factions... this is the way it's SUPPOSED to work!)) !!!!!!!!

Luk 4:8 "GET THEE BEHIND ME, SATAN: FOR IT IS WRITTEN..."

Galatians 5:19-23 (NIV) 19 "The ACTS OF THE SINFUL NATURE ARE OBVIOUS... 20... ***FACTIONS*** 21 ...AND THE LIKE. I WARN YOU, AS I DID BEFORE, THAT THOSE WHO LIVE LIKE THIS WILL NOT INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD"

Galatians 5:19-23 (NASB) 19 "Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are:... 20... ***FACTIONS***, 21 ...and things like these, of which I forewarn you, just AS I HAVE FOREWARNED YOU, THAT THOSE WHO PRACTICE SUCH THINGS WILL NOT INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD."

Gal 5:19 (KJV) "Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these... hatred... HERESIES (GREEK- *****HAIRESIS******), 21...murders... AND SUCH LIKE: OF THE WHICH I TELL YOU before, as I have also told you in time past, THAT THEY WHICH DO SUCH THINGS ***SHALL NOT*** INHERIT*** THE KINGDOM OF GOD."!!!!

1 Cor 11:18 "...THAT THERE BE DIVISIONS AMONG YOU... 19 ...THERE MUST BE ALSO HERESIES (***Greek- HAIRESIS***) AMONG YOU..."

"HERESY ***HAIRESIS*** (139) denotes (a) "a choosing, choice" (from haireomai, "to choose"); then, "that which is chosen," and hence, "an opinion," ESPECIALLY A SELF-WILLED OPINION, which is SUBSTITUTED for submission to the power of truth, and LEADS TO DIVISION AND THE FORMATION OF SECTS, Gal 5:20 (marg., "parties"); such ERRONEOUS OPINIONS are frequently the outcome of personal preference or the prospect of advantage; see 2 Pet 2:1" -Vine's Expository Dicitionary of Biblical Words.

Strong's reference number: 139. Greek: hairesis. Definition: prop. a choice, i.e. (spec.) a party or (abstr.) disunion" -Strong's Exhaustive Concordance.

Jer 23:16 "Thus saith the LORD of hosts, Hearken not unto the words of the prophets that prophesy unto you... A VISION OF THEIR OWN HEART, AND NOT OUT OF THE MOUTH OF THE LORD... 21 I have not sent these prophets, yet they ran... 32 Behold, I AM AGAINST THEM THAT PROPHESY FALSE DREAMS, SAITH THE LORD, AND DO TELL THEM, AND CAUSE MY PEOPLE TO ERR BY THEIR LIES, and by their lightness; yet I SENT THEM NOT, NOR COMMANDED THEM: therefore they shall not profit this people at all, saith the LORD...