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SATAN'S GREATEST HOAX or 226 questions PROVING the doctrine of the TRINITY to be UNSCRIPTURAL! Questions 105 through 113- A schizophrenic God? (Jesus prayed- continued). ((Who is Jesus praying to? Himself? Not only does your god have multiple personality disorder (("schizophrenic")), not only does he talk with himself, but he seeks to deceive all those who follow and worship him. He tells them he is praying to the "Father" when in actuality he's talking with himself. So, I must also ask, did Jesus really personally interact with the Father when He heard, learned and received all things from the Father (Matt. 28:18; John 3:35; 8:26, 40; 15:15)? According to your theology, this is only a temporary appearance right? - a "play"? God is the actor and the earth is His stage. Christ's ministry on earth was merely a hoax. Your Jesus didn't really NEED to pray, he just pretended he was praying...)) (Note: this Trinitarian, in using the word schizophrenic, is referring to where I had accused Trinitarians of worshipping a "schizophrenic god" because that's what "three persons in one" means- multiple personality disorder.) QUESTION #105) Why do you NOT believe that Jesus can be both God AND man? If Jesus is FULLY BOTH God and man, why can't you accept that He MUST FULLY, TOTALLY FULFIL BOTH ROLES in order to ACTUALLY BE both? QUESTION #106) Could He only be a human (according to your doctrine) IF He QUIT BEING GOD? QUESTION #107) Could He only be God IF He NEVER ACTUALLY robed Himself in flesh, AND ACTUALLY DID WHAT MEN MUST DO? Rom 9:5 "...Concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen." QUESTION #108) Who else then would Jesus pray (communicate, submit) to, AS A MAN, if in fact He is both the one true God and man, IF NOT THAT PART of His nature which IS God, and NOT man- the Father? 1 Cor 11:3 "But I would have you know, that ... the HEAD OF CHRIST IS GOD." 1 Cor 12:12 "For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ." QUESTION #109) Where is there any contradiction with the physical parts of the human body (made in God's image) COMMUNICATING WITH, and in subjection to THE HEAD OF THE BODY, yet being one and the selfsame? Are OUR body parts "Separate Persons" since they are in subjection to, and MUST communicate with, the head of the body? If there is no contradiction with the human communicating between mind and body members without separation of persons, why is there a contradiction, perceived by you, in the same instance, in the Godhead? QUESTION #110) How is realizing, and expressing THE ABSOLUTE NEED FOR BODY PARTS TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE HEAD in any way confused with "schizophrenia"??? But, IF WE MAKE those body parts to be "Separate Persons" how have we NOT THEN made that body a schizophrenic mess without any true unity of mind? How then IS NOT YOUR TRINITY A SCHIZOPHRENIC GODHEAD??? Let me reiterate, we are not contending over "simple" differences of members in or of one body. Different MEMBERS (i.e. mind, body, soul, hands, feet, etc.) in or of one body is not schizophrenia- it is normal, expected, and ESSENTIAL (NEEDED) for the existence of any complex entity. SEPARATION OF PERSONS IN ONE BODY, ON THE OTHER HAND, IS ABNORMAL, UNACCEPTABLE, AND SCHIZOPHRENIC- AN ILLNESS, AND AN ABOMINATION! And that is where the "rubber meets the road" (to use your words) with my contention, and that of the scriptures, with the Trinity doctrine of "Separate Persons" in the one God! Mar 3:25 "And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand." ((Your Jesus didn't really NEED to pray, he just pretended he was praying to someone to teach an example. So, the personal interactions between the Son and the Father are merely fake - aren't genuine. Jesus was an impostor - He only interacted with Himself to "fulfill the Law"!?!! But in actuality if "prayer" is part of the Law, then Jesus really didn't fulfill it since He wasn't really praying to anybody.)) "Jesus really didn't fulfill it since He wasn't really praying to anybody."??? What YOU are telling ME here (deny it all you wish, that doesn't change reality), is that YOU DON'T REALLY BELIEVE (or don't understand that) JESUS (God) really and truly could and DID BECOME FULLY A MAN, AND STILL REMAINED THE ONE TRUE GOD! AT THE SAME TIME- FULLY BOTH! Otherwise, what is the problem with Jesus being both man and God at the same time, and functioning FULLY as both, without their being a separation of persons? (( Why did Christ pretend that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit were, (at least), distinct from each other, if it wasn't true? Why didn't He just be "Jesus" and not bring up the "Father, Son or Holy Spirit?" - Or is he just a so-called "Sadist in the Sky", who likes to confuse people then send them to Hell for not believing what they couldn't get out of Scripture?)) QUESTION #111) WHERE does Christ PRETEND to be separate persons? Where does He specifically tell us- "I and the Father are two Separate Persons in one Triune God"??? Where did Christ or the apostles EVER say (not merely imply that) Jesus and the Father are separate persons? NOWHERE, that's where! Your doctrine is based on implications, not specifically stated scriptural truths! Jesus DID NOT PRETEND TO BE SEPARATE PERSONS, HE SAID- Joh 10:30 "I and my Father are one." Joh 14:6 "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. 7 IF YE HAD KNOWN ME, YE SHOULD HAVE KNOWN MY FATHER ALSO: AND FROM HENCEFORTH YE KNOW HIM, AND HAVE SEEN HIM. 8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. 9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? HE THAT HATH SEEN ME HATH SEEN THE FATHER; AND HOW SAYEST THOU THEN, SHEW US THE FATHER?" Rev 22:16 "I Jesus... testify unto you... I am the root and the offspring..." Joh 8:13 "The Pharisees therefore said unto him, THOU BEAREST RECORD OF THYSELF; thy record is not true. 14 Jesus answered and said unto them, Though *I BEAR RECORD OF MYSELF*, *YET MY RECORD IS TRUE*:.. 18 I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me. 19 Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: IF YE HAD KNOWN ME, YE SHOULD HAVE KNOWN MY FATHER ALSO... 24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for IF YE BELIEVE NOT THAT I AM HE, YE SHALL DIE IN YOUR SINS. 25 Then said they unto him, WHO ART THOU? And Jesus saith unto them, Even THE SAME THAT I SAID UNTO YOU FROM THE BEGINNING... 27 THEY UNDERSTOOD NOT THAT HE SPAKE TO THEM OF THE FATHER." QUESTION #112) Is one task more difficult than another for God? Then why is it so unacceptable to Trinitarians that one God could be both Father and Son without Separation of Persons? Gen 18:14 "Is any thing too hard for the LORD?" Jer 32:17 "Ah Lord GOD! behold, thou hast made the heaven and the earth by thy great power and stretched out arm, and there is nothing too hard for thee." QUESTION #113) If the doctrine of Separation of Persons for multiple tasks doesn't come from the Bible, where can it come from other than paganism, or philosophy? 1 Cor 12:2 "Ye know that ye were Gentiles, CARRIED AWAY UNTO THESE DUMB IDOLS, EVEN AS YE WERE LED... 4 Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. 5 And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord. 6 And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all... 11 BUT ALL THESE WORKETH THAT ONE AND THE SELFSAME SPIRIT... 12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: SO ALSO IS CHRIST. Questions 114 through 115- In His image- mind, body, and soul. ((You certainly have a distinction between the Father and the Son, as we saw just previously "It was not the deity of Christ that prayed - it was the man". And you must have a distinction between the Son and the Spirit, because when you say that the Spirit dwells within believers you don't mean to say that the actual incarnate Jesus (Son) dwells there, do you?)) I never made the contention that there were NO distinctions whatsoever between the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. ((You also make reference to God being "seen as distinct parts of the whole being of God just as our mind, body and soul are separate manifestations of ourselves, yet they are merely members of the same being". I'll have you know that Trinitarians have used this analogy throughout the ages as a way to explain the trinity - and now you try and use it for your "Oneness" message. This analogy also shows a distinction between each, because when we speak of the "body" we are not then speaking of the "mind" also. The body is not the mind. So, you definitely show a distinction of persons when you need to - so take a look at your "trinity" first and see if it is Biblical.)) QUESTION #114) So why then, don't Trinitarians use the analogy correctly? QUESTION #115) Is my mind a separate Person from my body (1Co 11:3)? Does not my body cry out to my mind when it is in pain (Luk 22:44)? Does not my body do whatever my mind tells it (Joh 5:30)? Does not my mind dwell in me, and I dwell in my mind (Joh 14:11)? Does not my body and my mind answer to the name of TomR (Phil2:10-11)? Do not my mind, my body, and my soul testify of my name, TomR, and yet none are separate persons from the others (Act 4:10-12)? Then why is it so hard to understand these things also concerning Jesus Christ (1Co 12:11-12)? Question 116- The Most High overshadowed Mary. ((...In Luke 1:35 we find the angel informing Mary, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the Holy One [Jesus Christ] to be born will be called the Son of God." Though THE HOLY SPIRIT was the primary agent through whom the Incarnation was brought about, we are told in Hebrews 10:5 that IT WAS THE FATHER who prepared a human body for Christ. Moreover, JESUS is said to have taken upon HIMSELF flesh and blood - AS IF IT WERE AN ACT OF HIS OWN INDIVIDUAL SOVEREIGN WILL (Heb. 2:14).)) This is total Oneness doctrine! All I had to do was take out the word "Trinity" from the beginning! Read the above and just zero in on the words I've capitalized, and you'll see Oneness JUMP OUT AT YOU! Do you not see- If the Spirit was the "agent" of the Incarnation, yet it was the Father, yet it was "Jesus... HIMSELF... as if it were an act of HIS OWN... will," where is separation of persons? Especially when you yourself said- "Jesus is said to have taken upon HIMSELF..."? QUESTION #116) And what makes you think "Most High" must mean ONLY the Father? Is Jesus NOT also Himself called the "Most High"? "And thou (John the Baptist)... shalt be called the prophet of the Highest: for thou shalt go before the face of the Lord to prepare HIS ways" -Luke 1:76. Joh 3:31 "HE THAT COMETH FROM ABOVE IS ABOVE ALL" WITH: Joh 8:23 "And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I AM FROM ABOVE: ye are of this world; I am not of this world." Luk 6:35 "...ye shall be the children of the Highest" WITH: Rev 21:6 "...I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end... 7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I WILL BE HIS GOD, AND HE SHALL BE MY SON. Eph 4:9 "(Now that he ascended, what is it but that HE ALSO DESCENDED first into the lower parts of the earth? 10 He that descended is THE SAME ALSO THAT ASCENDED UP FAR ABOVE ALL heavens, that he might fill all things. Questions 117 through 125- Elohim- one God or plural Gods? ((TomR, "have we forgotten the Old Testament our schoolmaster?" I could start out by saying that God is a plurality by the name Elohim, but I read your response to it, yet it doesn't hold water if in fact this does in fact speak of God in a plurality of persons (not attributes). When "elohim" is spoken of regarding false gods it speaks of them as more than one - why does this change when it speaks of the True God. If the Old Testament was to be clear on the subject of the "Oneness" of God, the singular form "Eloah" should've been used as in Duet. 32:15-17 or Hab. 3:3. This singular form could've been used consistently. Yet it is only used 250 times, while the plural is used 2,500 times. This then turns the argument in favor of the plurality in the Godhead.)) Right off I see FIVE problems with your reasoning here. #1- Scholars recognize that the word 'Elohim' does NOT necessarily mean plurality of persons: "God, The idea advanced that the word 'Elohim' referred to a plurality of persons when referring to the living God in the Godhead HARDLY FINDS NOW A SUPPORTER AMONG SCHOLARS. It is what grammarians refer to as 'majesty' or 'strength' or 'power.' -Smith's Bible Dictionary, ed. S.N. Teloubet (Teacher's Edition; New York: Holt, Reinhart, and Winston, 1948), p. 220. QUESTION #117) Since Hebrew is their language, where was the word "Elohim" referred to by true Hebrews, with reference to THEIR GOD, to mean plurality of persons? NOWHERE! Mal 2:10 "Have we not all one father? hath not one God created us?" Joh 8:41 "...we have one Father, even God." #2- God's Word NEVER criticized the Jew's belief in their one God, their pure monotheism, nor even intimated that their pure monotheism was not the truth about God- Joh 4:22 "Ye worship ye know not what: WE KNOW WHAT WE WORSHIP: for salvation is of the Jews." "Thus saith the Lord, Let not the wise man glory in his wisdom, neither let the mighty man glory in his might, let not the rich man glory in his riches: But let him that glorieth glory in this, that HE UNDERSTANDETH AND KNOWETH ME, that I am the Lord..." -Jeremiah 9:23-24. "YE ARE MY WITNESSES, saith the Lord, and my servant whom I have chosen: THAT YE MAY KNOW AND BELIEVE ME, AND UNDERSTAND THAT I AM HE: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. I, even I, am the Lord; and beside me there is no saviour... ye are my witnesses, saith the Lord, that I am God... Thus saith the Lord, your redeemer, the Holy One (Jesus, as you have said!) of Israel... I am the Lord, your Holy One, the creator of Israel, your King" -Isaiah 43:10-15. QUESTION #118) Why did the Lord tell the Jews that they understand and know Him, and that they knew who they worshipped, but they understood nothing about any Trinity of persons? QUESTION #119) Were the true Jews unaware of the nature of the Son of God? "Now all this was...spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us" -Matthew 1:21-23, & Isaiah 7:14. "Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended?... What is His name, and what is His Son's name, if thou canst tell?" -Prov. 30.4. (...Christ...ascended up on high... HE THAT DESCENDED IS THE SAME ALSO THAT ASCENDED up far above all... that He might fill all..." -Ephesians 4:7-10. "...How say the scribes that Christ is the Son of David? For David himself said by the Holy Ghost, The Lord said to my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool. David therefore himself calleth Him Lord; and whence is He then his son?" -Mark 12:35-37, and Luke 20:41-44. "I Jesus... I am the root and the offspring of David..." -Revelation 22:16. #3- The word Elohim in reference to the Lord is qualified many, many, many, many times in scripture as to His numerical value. The word deer is a plural word, like Elohim, so let's compare: The buck our deer is one buck. With: "The Lord our God is one Lord" -Mark 12:29. For there is one deer. With: "For there is one God..." -1 Timothy 2:5. But deer is one. With: "...But God is one" -Galatians 3:20. Have we not all one buck? Hath not one deer sired all our fawns? With: "Have we not all one Father? Hath not one God created us?" -Malachi 2:10. To us there is but one deer, the buck. With: "To us there is but one God, the Father..." -1 Corinthians 8:6. One deer and buck of all. With: "One God and Father of all..." -Ephesians 4:6. QUESTION #120) If we say that deer is one, that there is one deer, and that we have one deer, then HOW HAVE WE NOT DISQUALIFIED THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY HAVE THREE SEPARATE DEER? What number of God has the Bible declared the Lord to be? "The Lord our God is one Lord" -Mark 12:29. #4- The word Elohim DOES NOT always automatically indicate a plurality of persons in the Bible: Exo 7:1 "And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god (Elohim) to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet." QUESTION #121) Was there then more than one person of Moses (who, by the way, was also made in God's image)? Absolutely preposterous notion, that Moses himself must also be, according to Trinitarian logic, three separate persons! It is no less as preposterous to say that God is a Trinity of separate persons! #5- You are NOT arguing a plurality of "persons" here, YOU ARE ARGUING FOR A PLURALITY OF GODS!!! In every one of your "pluralities" NOT ONE mentioned "Persons"! ((Joshua 24:19, "You cannot serve the Lord, for He is a holy God..." [Literally - holy Gods].)) QUESTION #122) Why then are Trinitarians so defensive when we Oneness accuse them of worshipping more than one God? QUESTION #123) WHY DON'T YOU JUST ADMIT THAT YOU BELIEVE IN MORE THAN ONE GOD, AS YOU HAVE JUST DONE HERE??? Oh, and by the way, (though admittedly taken out of context) the Bible does occasionally use the word "persons." For example: Job 13:10 "He will surely reprove you, if ye do secretly accept persons." 2 Ch 19:7 "Wherefore now let the fear of the LORD be upon you; take heed and do it: for there is no iniquity with the LORD our God, nor respect of persons, nor taking of gifts." The point is, along with your argument, the Lord could have just as easily SPECIFICALLY SAID there are three separate PERSONS in the godhead, IF HE MEANT PERSONS! QUESTION #124) You have proven NOTHING by your "He could have said" statements. If "HE could have said" anything, WHY DIDN'T HE SAY "TRINITY OF SEPARATE PERSONS" EVEN JUST ONCE IN THE BIBLE IF THAT'S WHAT HE MEANT AND WANTED US TO BELIEVE? QUESTION #125) Why does the Bible COMMAND us to believe that "the LORD our God is ONE LORD" if He really meant- "The Lord our God is a Trinity of Separate Persons"??? Questions 126 through 128- Let US MAKE man. ((You've also dealt with the fact that when God often speaks of Himself, He clearly uses the plural pronoun - but in actuality, you don't deal with it at all.)) (("Let US make man in OUR image, according to OUR likeness" (Gen. 1:26). (To dispel your argument - when God speaks of Himself, He uses the plural, but when spoken of in narrative, "So God created man in HIS own image; in the image of God HE created him..."(v. 27) it uses the singular - therefore, proving a triune God - plural yet singular.))) QUESTION #126) Oh really? Does God EVER in the Bible say "We three created"? Has God NOT QUALIFIED MANY TIMES OVER THE NUMERIC VALUE OF THE CREATOR? And what about Isaiah 44:24, among others? "Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself" -isaiah 44:24 "But the Lord is the true God...and an everlasting King... The gods THAT HAVE NOT MADE THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH, EVEN THEY SHALL PERISH from the earth, and from under these heavens" -Jeremiah 10:10-11. "At that day shall a man look to HIS MAKER, and his eyes shall have respect to THE HOLY ONE..." -Isaiah 17:7. "...See, and know, and consider, and understand together, that the hand of the Lord hath done this, and THE HOLY ONE of Israel HATH CREATED IT" -Isaiah 41:20. "...Your Holy One, the creator..." -Isaiah 43:15. With: "...Jesus of Nazareth...thine Holy One..." -Acts 2:22-27. QUESTION #127) Why did He say HOLY ONE so many times if He really meant "Holy Trinity"? I'll tell you why, because He didn't mean "Holy Trinity" He meant "Holy One" and that's why He said it the way He did!!! Simple, eh? ;-) "...I am the Lord that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens ALONE; that spreadeth abroad the earth BY MYSELF" -Isaiah 44:24. "All things were made BY HIM (not them); and without Him (not them) was not anything made that was made... He was in the world, and the world was made by Him (not them), and the world knew Him not" -John 1:3,10. "For by Him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by Him and for Him: And He is before all things, and by Him all things consist. And He is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the first born from the dead; that in all things He might have the preeminence" -Colossians l:16-18. Deu 32:39 "See now that I, even I, am he, and there is NO GOD WITH ME:" Isa 44:6 "Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and BESIDE ME THERE IS NO GOD." Isa 45:5 "I am the LORD, and THERE IS NONE ELSE, THERE IS NO GOD BESIDE ME." QUESTION #128) Is there no other answer to whom the "US" may refer to? Notice that God said- "Let US MAKE man in OUR image, according to OUR likeness" (Gen. 1:26). BUT, at the actual point of the creation, it is written- "So God CREATED man in His own image; in the image of God HE (NOT THEY) CREATED HIM..."V. 27. Make is the Hebrew word: `asah, which means, according to Strong's: "to do or to make, in the broadest sense and widest application" However, the word "create" is the Hebrew word: bara', meaning: to create; (qualified... as formative processes)." Different words, indicating different processes and purposes, in reality. Therefore NOT to be confused as the same event, and therefore no evidence at all that "separate persons" created! So, although it specifically says "He CREATED him" and it was done- man was created. BUT, man WAS NOT "FINISHED" being MADE from God's perspective at that point- 1 Cor 3:9 "FOR WE ARE LABOURERS TOGETHER WITH GOD: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building. 10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon." Eph 4:11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 FOR THE PERFECTING OF THE SAINTS, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: 13 TILL WE ALL COME IN THE UNITY OF THE FAITH, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, *UNTO A PERFECT MAN*, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:" So, when God said- "Let US MAKE man in OUR image, according to OUR likeness" (Gen. 1:26)," it is evident that God was speaking to all His ministers to come- Rom 4:17 "As it is written... God... CALLETH those things which BE NOT AS THOUGH THEY WERE." Questions 129 through 131- Thy Maker is thy husband. ((Psalm 149:2, "Let Israel rejoice in their Maker..." [Literally - Makers]... Isaiah 54:5, "For your Maker is your husband, the LORD of hosts is His name..." [Literally - Makers, husbands].)) QUESTION #129) Is there more than one husband of the Church? Is that really what you are saying? Is that really what you believe? Eph 5:25 "Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;... 27 That he might PRESENT IT TO HIMSELF a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish. 28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself... 31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. 32 THIS IS A GREAT MYSTERY: BUT I SPEAK CONCERNING CHRIST AND THE CHURCH." 2 Cor 11:2 "For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I HAVE ESPOUSED YOU TO ONE HUSBAND, that I may present you as a chaste virgin TO CHRIST. 3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. 4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him. Isaiah 54:5, "For your Maker is your husband, the LORD of hosts is His name..." Joh 1:10 "He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not." QUESTION #130) So WHY are you so defensive when it is said that Trinitarians worship more than one God? Are Trinitarians then NOT hereby proven to be spiritually adulterous in taking unto themselves more than one husband? 1Jo 3:2 "Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, WE SHALL BE LIKE HIM; for we shall see him as he is." QUESTION #131) And to what image are we being "made"? Will WE be Trinities of persons then when we see Him as He is? Question 132- The LONE Creator. ((Ecc. 12:1, "Remember now your Creator in the days of your youth..." [Literally - Creators].)) Isa 44:24 "Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens ALONE; that spreadeth abroad the earth by MYSELF." ((Also as you like to point out, the Shema - Deut. 6:4, "Hear, O Israel, the LORD our God, the LORD is one!" The words "our God" are plural in the Hebrew text and literally mean "our Gods". But the main argument lies in the Hebrew word "one" (echad). This word, echad, does not mean an absolute "one" but a compound "one." This is clearly seen by looking through the Hebrew text:.. Therefore, it is seen that the Hebrew Scriptures teach a triune God.)) QUESTION #132) OK, you've convinced me that you believe in more than one God! Is that what you believe in- a PLURALITY of GODS? Besides, let's look at some other passages using the Hebrew word echad (one), and see how the numerical value appears. (These verses would totally contradict themselves if one doesn't mean numerically one! There are many more examples in the scriptures.) Deu 19:15 One (echad) witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established." Gen 27:38 "And Esau said unto his father, Hast thou but one (echad) blessing, my father? bless me, even me also, O my father. And Esau lifted up his voice, and wept." Please continue with the 226 questions disproving the doctrine of the Trinity. QUESTION 133 Return to the Table of Contents for the 226 questions Return to the preface for the studies on the doctrine of the Oneness of God in the name of Jesus Christ. Read real conversations on the topic of Oneness vs. Trinity. |