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Is Baptism Literally "In Jesus' Name" Merely "At Least As Valid" As Baptism With The Words "Father, Son, And Holy Spirit"?

"at least as valid"? I must contend there is NO such comparison. NOT EVEN CLOSE!!!

To be "at least as valid" they would have to be at least somewhat, if not entirely substantially equal. There is, IN FACT - NO COMPARISON!!!

For example-

Can you show me EVEN ONE Biblically stated purpose for being baptized "into" the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost?

In the beginning of this post I gave 4 very explicitly stated scriptural purposes and reasons for being baptized into Jesus Christ. And here is another, that ties with the fourth one, baptism into the death of Jesus-

Rom 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? 4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

Can you show me scripturally how we could possibly be buried into the death of the Father or the Holy Spirit?

The gospel is the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ (1 Cor. 15:1-4), and who ever doesn't OBEY the gospel of Jesus Christ will be punished with everlasting destruction-

2 Th 1:7 when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed…, 8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, **and** that OBEY not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: 9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

So there is another reason to be baptised into the name of Jesus Christ- to be buried with him in obedience to His gospel.

Can you show me any commandment of God to "believe on the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost"?

1 John 3:23 And this is His commandment, that we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ

can you show me any scripture at all where we are to have faith in the name of the "Father, Son, and Holy Ghost"?

Acts 3:16 And his name through faith in his name hath made this man strong, whom ye see and know: yea, the faith which is by him hath given him this perfect soundness in the presence of you all.

Can you show me any scripture at all that says that we can receive remission of sins through calling on, or having faith in the name of "Father, Son, and Holy Ghost"?

Acts 10:43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name (Jesus) whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins,

Luke 24:46 it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day. 47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in His name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

Can you show me any scripture at all that says we are to call on the name of "Father, Son, and Holy Ghost" and we shall be saved?

Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. 14 How then shall they call on him (not them!!!) in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him (not them!!!) of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? 15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things! 16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel.

Can you show me anywhere in the bible where anyone was baptized into the "Father, Son, and Holy Ghost"?

No! A thousand times NO!

Can you show me scripturally how saying Father, Son, and Holy Ghost is to believe that Jesus is the Father, or explains why He said He came in His Father's name (see above), as He said, and one doesn't believe it they are yet dead in there sins?

John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins… 27 They understood not that he spake to them of the father.

Can you show me how that saying "Father, Son, and Holy Ghost" at baptism is to confess belief that Jesus Christ is the Holy Spirit in the believer, which unless one believes so, they are a reprobate?

Col 1:26 Even the mystery which hath been… but now is made manifest to his saints: 27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:

2 Cor 13:5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?

Being baptized in Jesus' name validates every single one of these points.

Being baptized into the names "Father, Son, and Holy Ghost invalidates (makes void and null) every single one of these points!

When a person is baptized into Jesus, they are confessing to the world, eternity, and most importantly, to God that they BELIEVE that-

1 Pet 3:21 …baptism doth also now save us:

Acts 4:12 neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name (than Jesus Act 4:10) under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Col 3:17 And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus,

1 John 3:23 And this is His commandment, that we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.

Rom 6:3 …that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? 4 Therefore we are buried with Him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

When a person is baptized into the titles Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, they are confessig to the world, and to eternity, and most importantly to God, that they believe none of these scriptures.

And if you don't believe these scriptures, why do you call Jesus Lord?

Luke 6:46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?

1 John 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

1 Cor 14:37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.

So how can anyone possibly think that one baptism is as valid as the other, or even that baptism itself doesn't even really matter?

Baptism is NOT a work of the Old Testament law! Baptism is a New Testament ordinance of the Lord Himself!!

Acts 9:6 And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou MUST do.

Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

Furthermore, baptism is NOT a work of "ourselves" that we could boast, but it is a work of Christ through our faith, which He has ordained that we should walk in…

Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

Was it a "work" of Peter and John because they called on the name of Jesus to heal the lame man at the gate of the temple?

Acts 3:6 Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up and walk. 7 And he took him by the right hand, and lifted him up: and immediately his feet and ankle bones received strength.

Would this man have been healed if they hadn't called on the name?

Acts 3:12 And when Peter saw it, he answered unto the people, Ye men of Israel, why marvel ye at this? or why look ye so earnestly on us, as though by our own power or holiness we had made this man to walk? 13 The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go. 14 But ye denied the Holy One and the Just, and desired a murderer to be granted unto you; 15 And killed the Prince of life, whom God hath raised from the dead; whereof we are witnesses. 16 And his name through faith in his name hath made this man strong, whom ye see and know: yea, the faith which is by him hath given him this perfect soundness in the presence of you all.

It is through faith in the name of Jesus Christ, and the operation of God that baptism saves.

Otherwise, which of us, by dunking ourselves in water, can wash away our sins?

Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

1 Pet 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:

John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

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How Can The Words Of A Third Party Affect The Relationship Between A Person And God?

Very simple…

Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. 14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? 15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things! 16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel.

And the scripture specifically says-

1 Pet 3:20 …once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water. 21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:

Please continue with part three- Jesus or Yeshua - Which should we say at baptism?